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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Welding hints and tips Reply with quote

This is one for EXUPTOY i think as you seem to know what you're talking about...

Well, i need to do some welding on the mk1 and i wanted a little advice really.

I want (well more like NEED) to weld some patches on the floor of the mk1 but want them to be invisible when painted as shes going to be stripped out and i don't want to see them. How would / could i go about this? I've read in one of your previous posts about this tool you can get that will create a sort of set back lip? Would this be the best way of doing it. I was thinking that this could be done to the sheet metal i wanted to weld, then place this from the rear or underside of the hole then weld from the front or upper side around the edge. Then the weld could be ground down flush to make a very neat looking weld that would hopefully disappear when painted??

Only problem is i can't use this method on all of the welds as one of the biggest is on the corner of the drivers bulkhead/floorpan and inner arch. What method would be good for this?

Also, what thickness metal should i use? Whats the orig metal thickness, and should i use thicker?

I'll need to buy a welder, haven't got alot of money, well, i haven't got any at the moment (got me a house now tho...woohoo smile) so what should i be looking for? Second hand is a real possibility so i can get a little more for me money. Also, what sort of wire and gas should i use, what wheel and tip sizes, or does that depend on wire?

Erm... i think thats enough for now...


Any tips on how to weld would be nice as well wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want a copy of the Haynes Welding manual?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL If you have it mate that would be great! big grin

I take it its one of your ebooks? My email address is aj.jacko@gmail.com

Cheers dude
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't you weld it up and then grind the welds down so they don't show?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well yeah, but its hard to line two sheets of metal together edge to edge and then weld you see
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hurt....

I could do that a piece of wee wee....the tool you are asking about is an edge setter, or joggler. You don't need it for the bits that want doing on yours, you would spend all day trying to get the edges right as it is not only in a tight space but also on about 3 different planes.

I am throwing my toys outta the pram now though, and I am buying a new welder to work on my cars only....and it'll be shiney.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and I have loads of different types of sheet metal as well. From panel thinkness to chassis thickness....and it's all mine.

Tut...the cheek of it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooh i'd love a copy of the haynes welding manual? Cool

davestar7@hotmail.com

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason wrote:
Oh and I have loads of different types of sheet metal as well. From panel thinkness to chassis thickness....and it's all mine.

Tut...the cheek of it.


Its not that i don't value your opinion its just that some other peps may have a little more experience thats all, its all information for the brain, and i wanted some ideas for how i should go about making the welds invisible and all that...

Please don't take offence dude... smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have sent the PDF to you both, its 10mb so i dunno if you'll be able to get that much?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hopefully... Confused

Cheers dude!

i'll print a copy out for Jay as well, we've all seen his attempted welding! Shocked

(only kidding Jay, come on, i don't mean it, i love you really!! laughing )

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's it, your off my Xmas card list now for definate.....wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was i ever on it to begin with? I know you weren't on mine. laughing

Stop sulking you big girl.



(i should really stop, far too much to loose for me...) Everything’s setup for tomorrow mate if you can. Just need the missing 300 pounds to turn up now Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be a problem with tomorrow.....

I might be having Lewis after school.

Are you £300 short on the bond? Just think of the money you will be saving by exiting stage left from the place where you are....

Oh I hope your landlord doesn't read here!!! laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have all the money tomorrow big grin

No worries if you can't do tomorrow mate, but if you can let me know ASAP cuz i need to tell the landlord when and at what time i'll be over you see.

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